nice work corvin; they hate when you call thier bluff. you made your x and the p.o. look like fools calling out the p.o. infront of the dubs. let all see he is really nothing ie glorious one. i would say they will do what ever it takes to keep you from coming around again, but then again your x may give you more excuses for you to correct thier thinking... john
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I MADE A SCENE AT THE KINGDOM HALL REMODEL TODAY
by Corvin inthe set up
it was getting close to noon and elese decided to give her mother a call to let her know she was ready to be picked up.
sara said she had to stop by the kingdom hall to drop off some ice for the brothers doing the remodeling.
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Watchtower Quotes
by Beans inwell i haven't done any promotions for the site latley and i see so many people new to the forum.
so for those who are unaware of our beautiful site full of watchtower quotes un-edited, come over for a visit!.
hey if watchtower quotes are considered apostate you may not want to see the contradictions within the watchtowers own publications.. http://quotes.watchtower.ca .
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johnny cip
thanks again quotes and beans; i have printed out many times from your site and handed it over to jw's . when they call me a liar. 2 things happen they shut thier mouths and run the next time they see me. but before they run out of hears lenght. i remind them how uneducated they really are... john
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Interesting Response From JW ex-Wife
by Corvin inmy jw ex-wife called to talk to one of the kids.
they were not home, and she sounded agitated as usual.
she had a really nasty tone, very angry with a tinge of self-righteousness.
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johnny cip
yes corvin; it's great once you have a jw's number and can use their own teaching against them . sounds like she's having a problem showing the fruits of the sprit when i talk to mhy dad the jw before he answers me i like to throw in , be careful with your words jehoover hates a false witness etc. in many cases he wiil not even answer my question now. i tell him good thing you kept your mouth shut. but jehoover knows that deceptive lie you are thinking... it's so easy to burn a jw once you know their m.o. turning the tables on them is so satifying. john
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Why Preaching From House to House Is a WASTE and a SCAM!
by minimus inlogic tells us that the "preaching work" is alot to do about nothing.
knocking on doors when no one is home is a stupid waste of time!
the odds of finding a bible study that gets baptized after leaving a person a tract or magazine has got to be ridiculously low.
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johnny cip
talk about a waiste of time, i leave for work at 5a.m. i see jw's sometimes walking on totally dead streets at that time. just yesterday i saw 2 walking down a commerical district at 6 a.m. and saw them again about an hour later walking the other way. funny thing is none of the shops on that strip open till about 10 a.m. and not a person in sight. only auto traffic. i also find jw's sitting on benches in parks in areas that get next to no walking traffic. did i mention waisting time... john
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C.T. Russell Claimed Modern Inventions Were Harbingers of the Millennium
by Kenneson inthe april 15, 1915 zion's watch tower, page 126 has an interesting brief article entitled "the typewriter and progress" that is certainly worth perusing.. "amongst the great inventions of our day is the typewriter.
it came upon the market just forty years ago, in 1874, as a merchantable and usable convenience, after having been seven years in process of development.
the bible, we believe, marks the same year, 1874, as the beginning of the harvest of this age.
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wow ken: i was under the impression the wt was printing in house before the 20's . even contracting out their printing work, it would seem they were still making a pretty penny . with all the real estate etc they seamed to be able to buy up till that time. i guess the real increase in knowledge came when rutherfraud figured out he could get jw's to print and run a factory for room and board. (slave labor). now that was truely a revelation $$$$$$ .john
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C.T. Russell Claimed Modern Inventions Were Harbingers of the Millennium
by Kenneson inthe april 15, 1915 zion's watch tower, page 126 has an interesting brief article entitled "the typewriter and progress" that is certainly worth perusing.. "amongst the great inventions of our day is the typewriter.
it came upon the market just forty years ago, in 1874, as a merchantable and usable convenience, after having been seven years in process of development.
the bible, we believe, marks the same year, 1874, as the beginning of the harvest of this age.
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johnny cip
ty ken ; russell outscoursed all of his early books and mag's to printing co's and newspapers. it may have been @1884 when the wt inc.ed when they bought their own presses. were is RR when you need him . sure he knows when this injcreased knowledge happened... john
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johnny cip
i have ripped up wt's infront of jw's before when they asked for them back once they found out i can expose the wt. i also have told them who would want toilet paper with the crap allready on it. other times i tell them i shread the mag's to line the cat's box. also i tell them i have love birds once i started lining the cage with wt mag's they became jw's when one of the birds found out the wt contradicts it self and lies the other bird shuns him. a truely loving org. john
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Gadgets Elder Visit - The transcript
by Gadget ina few might remember that i arranged to meet with the elders for a chat, and i hoped it might let me get off a bit steam.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/76574/1.ashx.
it went great!
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johnny cip
gadget: nice show man. glad you held your own . and didn't back down. now you know you can handle them. wasn't so hard was it? you gave them a lot of good pointslike 1919 and out the back door. how i know , how great you feel with your self and you earned it! i suggestion if they come back . don't let them talks so much. . when you get in a good point , you have to hold their hands to the fire. till they burn. again you showed lots of courage......... john
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C.T. Russell Claimed Modern Inventions Were Harbingers of the Millennium
by Kenneson inthe april 15, 1915 zion's watch tower, page 126 has an interesting brief article entitled "the typewriter and progress" that is certainly worth perusing.. "amongst the great inventions of our day is the typewriter.
it came upon the market just forty years ago, in 1874, as a merchantable and usable convenience, after having been seven years in process of development.
the bible, we believe, marks the same year, 1874, as the beginning of the harvest of this age.
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ty kenneson and leolaia for the fine research. that at this point i'm no longer willing to do. to expose false wt teachings either before or after russell. once you take a historical look into wt teaching on increased knowledge, wars, famine, earthquakes, pestelicies, time of the end etc. it comes so easy to see that the wt leaders are trying to say all these things are happening in their life time. to forefull bible prophecy so they can see armageddom. i guess that's why my jw dad would never go to the public library with me to look up. any of these wacky wt ideas to test them. even when i borrowed books from the library on some of these subjects dad would not even look at them. i researched many of these subjects about 5 years ago for a few months all at the public library . when a jw tells you the wt has nothing to hide, and you do some research (non bibical) in this instance. they fall fast . after my little stint at the public library , it was very clear . the jw's had no care for facts. what so ever. from rr comments, it confirms also the original bible students are of the same mold as the jw's. blind... john
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EVASIONS! Techniques JW's use to avoid dealing with the truth about TRUTH
by Terry inmy weekly conversations with my old friend, johnny, who was responsible for bringing me into the watchtower society, have proved to be a herculean task.
he is still active in the organization and greatly skilled at avoiding anything unpleasant for him to face.
i've learned to identify his evasions as such and prepare myself mentally to deal with them.. what evasions have you encountered?.
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iv'e been questioning dozens of jw's weekly. i haqve been using a new method to pester jw's it's called the telephone. free long distance is a great thing. mostly i set them up with , is it true the wt has been giving proper spritual food at the proper time for the last 125 years. and worship acceptable to god? they will most always say yes this is true. now i have them set up like bowling pins. now i start in on some false prophecies and or false teachings flip flops etc. and go back to thier first answer they gave me that the wt has been giving proper spritual food at the proper time. now they can't answer me honestly, and start with the evasions, from which church do i attend, the pope is a dope, we don't fight wars, the list is endless. i stop them in their tracks and bring them back to my objections. now they say i want to argue, was i ever a jw, what's your purpose in talking with me . or the famous the light is getting brighter and brighter. now i'll ask what part of the world was to end in 1925 , 1918, hitler was going to take over the united states etc was light . which one of 1000's of false teaching ( pick any false teaching here)of the wt was light. no matter what they say at this point they know in the back of thier minds they are busted. i tell them to read prov 4;19 the way of the wicked is like darkness, and they don't know the reason why they stumble. now i ask again was the prophecy that the wt was more sure that abraham was going return in 1925 than noah was about the flood. light or darkness? who told noah about the flood? jehovah right. who told rutherfraud , he was more sure than noah about 1925 jehovah? at this point they are lost and start calling me names what i really like to throw in is that the wt today calls what the wt was teaching from 1918-25 forfullment of the 7 trumpets of rev. etc. so how does it feel to follow people that lie to you about thier history.etc. john